In this episode of the Relevant Roundtable, Paul and Susy Worth continue the Propagate series with a conversation about John 12–14 and the kind of growth that happens before anyone can see it.

From Mary pouring out costly perfume on Jesus to Jesus washing His disciples’ feet, this episode explores surrender, service, and the hidden roots of spiritual growth. Paul and Susy also connect the conversation to marriage, showing how healthy relationships do not grow by accident but through intentional time, consistency, and refusing to drift.

They also address how distraction, social media, and constant notifications shape our attention more than we realize. The episode challenges listeners to ask what is discipling them most: Jesus, their phone, their routines, or the noise around them. Because apparently humans needed tiny glowing rectangles to make ignoring their souls more efficient.